Aug. 27, 2021
Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby; Major
General Hank Taylor, Deputy Director of the Joint Staff For Regional
Operations, J-35
MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: Good morning. Thanks for
being here. Each day that we've been able to provide you updates, we're
glad that we're able to do that, and as from previous days, I'll, no
exception, give you an operational update, then turn it back over to Mr.
Kirby.
Don't have a lot of additional detail to offer you about the attack
yesterday at the Abbey Gate, but I can confirm for you that we do not
believe that there was a second explosion at or near the Baron Hotel;
that it was one suicide bomber. We're not sure how that report was
provided incorrectly, but we do know -- it's not any surprise -- that in
the confusion of very dynamic events like this can cause information
sometimes to be misreported or garbled. We felt it was important to
correct the record with you all here.
You've now seen that we've updated our casualty lists to include a --
a 13th service member killed in action. Our thoughts and prayers
continue to go out to the families and to the teammates that we have
lost. This is a devastating time for these Gold Star families, a title
no one wants to hold, but we absolutely hold in the utmost respect.
I can also report that two flights landed at Ramstein today carrying
our wounded personnel from the attack. These personnel have been
transferred to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center and are receiving care.
In Kabul, commanders on the ground continue to assess the risk and
the dynamic situation there, as they have -- have been since the
beginning. Force protection remains paramount with the continued threat.
We've continued the evacuation mission yesterday, as you saw -- as
you reported last night, and I'll give you an update of how things have
gone in the last 24 hours. Yesterday, 35 U.S. military aircraft, 29
C-17s and six C-130s departed with approximately 8,500 personnel.
Combined with 54 coalition aircraft departures, an additional 4,000
personnel left Kabul for various intermediate staging bases; 89 flights
total yesterday out of Kabul, totaling approximately 12,500 evacuees now
safely out -- out of Afghanistan in a 24-hour period. In the past 24
hours, more than 300 American citizens were evacuated from Afghanistan,
bringing our updated total to approximately 5,100. We continue to
maximize our efficiency, and since U.S. and coalition forces began the
evacuation, approximately 111,000 evacuees have departed safely.
The State Department consular officers continue to screen and process
people arriving at gates around Kabul. Some gates have been closed that
we reported, but American citizens, SIV applicants and vulnerable
Afghans who have the designated and proper credentials will continue to
be processed for departure from the airfield. There are still
approximately 5,400 individuals on the airport as of this report,
awaiting for flights out of Afghanistan.
We have the ability to include evacuees on U.S. military air --
airlift out of Afghanistan until the very end. The Department of Defense
has the continued responsibility to support the State Department in the
ongoing movement evacuees through our intermediate-staging basis and
safe havens all the way to the United States in the coming days and
weeks.
On that topic, here's a quick update on the military installations
and our safe havens and staging bases in CENTCOM and you -- and EUCOM
that are helping transition all these flights. CENTCOM locations,
including Al Udeid Air Base, steadily receive, process and transfer
passengers to follow-on locations in Europe and the United States.
Today, EUCOM will receive about 19 flights and approximately 19 -- or,
and approximately 5,000 passengers in Germany, Italy and Spain,
including the Naval Station Rota. In turn, six flights will transport
about 3,300 people from Europe to the United States.
I cannot say enough how important the contribution of our allies and our partners has been in this massive global operation.
Additionally, more evacuees continue to arrive stateside and are
moving to designated installations throughout NORTHCOM. The NORTHCOM
commanding general, General VanHerck, will provide a more focused
briefing on this extensive effort in his brief later today.
In conclusion, I'll reiterate what General McKenzie said yesterday.
There are more than 5,000 U.S. service members in harm's way, saving as
many people as they can. It's a noble mission. We have seen firsthand
how dangerous that mission is, but ISIS will not deter us from
accomplishing this mission. We appreciate your thoughts and prayers for
all of our service members who are carrying on this mission today. Above
all, we remain focused on evacuating American citizens and other
personnel designated by the Department of State, safeguarding the lives
of those whom we are providing assistance in keeping American troops
safe. Thank you.
PRESS SECRETARY JOHN F. KIRBY: OK, I just have one other thing to
add, and it's a good segue from what the General ended with. Today, the
Department of Defense can announce that it has authorized Marine Corps
Base Quantico, Virginia, Fort Pickett, Virginia and Holloman Air Force
Base, New Mexico to provide additional support to the U.S. mission to
evacuate Afghan Special Immigrant Visa applicants, their families and
other at-risk individuals.
These -- these installations joined Fort Lee, Fort McCoy, Fort Bliss
and Joint Base McGuire-Dix in providing this support. The Defense
Department will continue to support the State Department in providing
temporary housing, sustainment and support inside the United States for a
capacity of up to 50,000 Afghan Special Immigrant Visa applicants,
their families and other at-risk individuals.
U.S. Northern Command will coordinate the details of all of this with
the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and of
course the Department of Health and Human Services, as necessary, and it
will be providing -- provided under presidential drawdown authority to
the maximum extent possible, with additional support being provided on a
reimbursable basis.
And as General Taylor let you know, we had General VanHerck, the
commander of U.S. Northern Command, coming into the briefing room with
you later this afternoon. He'll be able to provide a lot more context on
that.
With that, we'll take questions. Lita?
Q: This is probably for the -- for the General. The President has
said he wants to, vowed, basically get back at ISIS. How difficult will
it be for the U.S. military to do that type of operation, considering
the lower number of troops and the difficulty in getting intelligence on
the ground?
And then I don't -- I don't know if this is you or -- or John -- can
you just talk about the number of people that we'll -- we'll see getting
processed over the next several days? Is that number going to gradually
go down? Do you have out the number of people that you think you're
going to or what's your ballpark estimate?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: All right, on the first question, on the -- our
capabilities and abilities to protect ourselves or to also -- to conduct
the strikes, like you said -- as I've said all along, we have resources
with the CENTCOM commander, with the commanders on the ground, and the
capabilities to allow us to execute any type of those operations as
those are required to do.
MR. KIRBY: So Lita, again, we're -- we're still planning on ending
this mission at the end of the month. And as I said the other day, as we
get closer -- and we are getting closer -- you're -- you're going to
see us begin to make those muscle movements to pull out our troops and
some of our equipment, as appropriate with any retrograde.
What we want to do is preserve as much capability for as long as we
can, both in terms of the security footprint but also in terms of the
ability, as the General alluded in his opening statement, to moving out
evacuees. Lives are still the priority and -- the lives of our troops
and of course the -- the lives of evacuees and trying to continue to get
as many out as possible.
So there will be a balance over the next few days as we continue to
process through that transition, as we continue to -- as what we call
retrograde, and -- and I can't give you a specific number on any given
day but I think you'll see us adjust as necessary to make sure that
we're achieving that proper balance, but we will be able to fly out
evacuees right up until the last moment. That's going to be the goal.
And if I may -- you didn't ask this but I want to take the advantage
-- opportunity to convey to all of you that as we did before, when we
began a retrograde, a withdrawal back in April, we were very judicious
about the detail that we were putting out, and I'm -- just want to level
set with all of you that you're going to see us become more judicious
now going forward, as we get closer to the end of the month, about what
information we're giving you in terms of how many troops are on the
ground.
I would not expect us to be giving that number out in -- going
forward and what the capabilities are and where they are and what
they're doing. We're going to be very, very mindful of the operational
security element of this and I think yesterday is a stark, grim reminder
of why that's important going forward.
I know that's not what you asked but I wanted to take an opportunity to get that out there.
Jen?
Q: John, how can you say with such certainty and how can General
McKenzie say with such certainty that the Taliban were not involved in
this suicide bombing? I understand that you're reliant on them for
protection around the airport but are you ruling out them being involved
because you're so dependent on the Taliban right now?
MR. KIRBY: Actually, I didn't hear General McKenzie put it that way,
Jen. In fact, I think in -- in one of the questions he got -- and I
think it was Idrees' -- you know, he said -- Idrees asked "was there a
failure?" and the General said "of course there was a failure somewhere,
obviously," and he even alluded to the fact that it -- it could've been
at a -- a Taliban checkpoint.
So I don't -- we've -- we've not been certain about that at all.
There will be an investigation, we'll try to learn as much as we can
about what happened, and I really don't want to get ahead of that
process.
Q: And in terms of ISIS-K, how many ISIS-K prisoners were left at
Bagram and are believed to have been released from the prison there? And
why weren't they removed before the U.S. pulled out, to some place like
Gitmo?
MR. KIRBY: Well -- well, I -- I don't know the exact number. Clearly,
it's in the thousands, when you -- when you -- when you consider both
prisons, cause both of them were taken over by the Taliban and emptied,
but I -- I couldn't give you a precise figure.
And as for emptying out, remember -- I mean, we were turning things
over to Afghan National Security Forces. That was part of the retrograde
process, was to turn over these responsibilities. And so they did have
responsibility for those prisons and the bases at which those prisons
were located.
And, of course, as the Taliban advanced, the -- the -- we didn't see
the level of resistance by the Afghans to hold some territory, some
bases, and unfortunately, those were bases that the Afghans didn't hold.
But all of those responsibilities were turned over, in accordance with
the retrograde plan back from April.
Idrees?
Q: I think this is more to the General -- yesterday, General McKenzie
talked about wanting to talk to the Taliban about pushing the perimeter
back as -- as one of the sort of ways to avoid another incident. Has
that happened? And (inaudible) you can't say by how much but has it
significantly been pushed back?
And what are you seeing in terms of flow to Abbey Gate? Is it less
people being allowed in? Is it still a rush of people, which could lead
to a similar incident? What do you see today at the gates?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: So what I can report as my discussion with the
commanders there on the ground is that multiple activities have taken
place to increase the force protection, specifically in communication
with the Taliban of how they are executing their checkpoint operations
and communication within there. So I -- I would say there's been
multiple -- I don't want to go into the details of the exact -- of what
-- that communication but I know that has happened.
And what we have seen today is a -- is a little lessing (sic) of what we would say total capacity of people in and around gates.
MR. KIRBY: Yes, Nazira?
Q: Thank you, John. As Jen said, I just -- since yesterday, people
were worried about everything about the Taliban. They were
psychologically under a lot of situations, some of my family they target
and tortured by the Taliban. But since yesterday, that ISIS created,
Afghan people are more -- more worried. Do you think that this - another
civil war was started in Afghanistan? That's what most of Afghan people
question, and everybody now want to leave the country, because now it’s
doubled -- before was only Taliban. Now, ISIS also show up one more
time their activity. Do you think that another civil war (inaudible)
start soon?
MR. KIRBY: Nazira, before -- before I try to answer that question, I
do want to take the opportunity, on behalf of the Department of Defense,
to also make sure that we express our condolences for the Afghan people
who suffered in yesterday's attack. We know that there were a number of
killed and wounded Afghan civilians at the airport, and that there are
families that are dealing with the same devastating, terrible news that
now Gold Star families here in the department are dealing with. So
again, on behalf of the secretary, we offer our condolences and thoughts
and prayers.
I -- I wish I had a crystal ball. I wish we could know for sure
what's -- what's going to happen in Afghanistan. We don't. We -- we
obviously don't want to see the country torn asunder through civil war.
But -- but that's why whatever the future of Afghanistan is from a
governance perspective, we are going to stay engaged with the
international community to make sure that Afghans -- Afghanistan's
leaders are held to proper account for the way they are governing, and
that Afghan -- Afghanistan's neighbors also try to play a -- a
constructive, productive role in whatever the future of Afghanistan is
going to be. Though we will not have a military presence there, the
United States government will still want to see what -- what we can do
in the international -- with the international community to make sure
that -- that Afghans can -- can have the best of all possible outcomes
for their future. But I -- I just -- I think it would be foolish for us
to try to be too predictive about what's going to happen right now.
Q: You have not changed the policy again to be involved again in Afghanistan?
MR. KIRBY: The commander-in-chief has made a very clear decision that
it -- it is time to end America's involvement on the ground in -- in a
war in Afghanistan, and -- and we're going to execute that decision, as
we should.
David?
Q: John, for the record, would you clear up the confusion over the
service affiliation of the -- the dead. It sounds like we -- we have a
total number of 13...
MR. KIRBY: That's right.
Q: ... but the breakdown within the 13 is not clear. The Marine statement said "at this time, 10".
MR. KIRBY: Yeah.
Q: So can you tell us what it is? And then I have a question for the general.
MR. KIRBY: Actually I'm -- I'm not able to break it down specifically
right now, David, and I want to defer to the services to speak to their
specific number of casualties. As you can imagine, they are having to
make -- they -- they're having to have difficult conversations with a
number of families, and we here at the department don't want to get
ahead of that process. So I -- I just -- I think on that one, I would
just defer to the services.
Q: And General, you didn't answer the question about whether the
Taliban has met General McKenzie's request to push the perimeter further
out, away from the airport, and he also said that he was going to ask
them to close some specific roads. Have they done...
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Sorry if I didn't add that level of specificity,
but I know those -- just exactly what General McKenzie had said had been
passed to his commanders to have those discussions with the Taliban to
take not only those specific measures, as he mentioned there and you
mentioned, but other activities that will increase the security and --
and the facilitation of those getting through, so...
Q: How do you know if they haven't?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: To the discussions?
Q: No, no. (inaudible)...
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Oh, no, I cannot report at this point what actions
the Taliban have taken in the last -- but I know that those discussions
have -- are happening in the -- that have happened.
MR. KIRBY: OK, I've got to get to the phones a -- a little bit here.
Lara Seligman, Politico? Are you there, Lara? OK, we'll come back to
you, Lara, if you're not able to pipe in there.
Tony?
Q: Hi, John. Can you hear me?
MR. KIRBY: Sure.
Q: OK, yesterday, the president said, "We're going to be in a
circumstance where I believe numerous opportunities will continue to
provide access for additional persons to get out of Afghanistan..." --
this is after the 31st -- he said, "... either through means that we
provide or are provided through in cooperation with the Taliban." Can
you give me a sense of the planning you're doing to take that direction
to heart? And what are the military implications of the president's
desire for still removing people after the 31st? Will there be continued
talks with the Taliban, staging a force in the region to get more
people out, et cetera?
MR. KIRBY: Yeah, Tony, I think my colleagues at the White House and
at the State Department have addressed this question before. I mean, we
-- the interagency, the -- the U.S. government will pursue a variety of
-- of ways to help any Americans who want to get out after our military
presence at the airport has ended to be able to help them get out, and
it's -- while Afghanistan is a unique case, it's -- it's not completely
separated from the larger effort that the United States government
pursues all over the world when -- when we -- when we know that
Americans are at special risk. We -- we do what we can to get them out,
and that doesn't necessarily involve the United States military. So I --
I don't -- I'm not going to -- certainly wouldn't speculate one way or
another about what -- what's going to happen after this particular
mission ends. But I would not envision a significant military role in
that effort, going forward.
Barbara?
Q: Going back to what David was asking, if the U.S. military knew
that there were improvements to be made such as closing roads and
pushing the perimeter back further, why wasn't this discussion engaged
in before -- in -- in -- before the attack? Why wasn't the point
pressed? Why weren't these improvements asked for by the Taliban?
Because you're saying General McKenzie was very clear. He's asking for
this now.
MR. KIRBY: Barb, I'll tell you, from -- from the very get-go, even
before we had a specific threat assessment, force protection was of
paramount importance to General McKenzie, to -- certainly, to the
Secretary, and I -- and I don't want to speak for the Chairman, but I
think I can -- for General Milley, as well in this regard. I -- I can
tell you that from the very beginning, force protection was always at
the -- at the front of everybody's mind, and force protection, as you
well know, as particularly in a dynamic environment, is something that
changes all the time.
And so as we got more information, we made adjustments to force
protection measures to try to do the -- the best we could at what we
thought were the specific threats we were facing. And you heard the
General talk yesterday about even overwatch in the air. I mean, there
was a lot of effort being done, which included -- as the General said,
included daily communication with the Taliban about the nature of the
threat and -- and sharing with them the appropriate, relevant
information about what we -- what we knew.
Now -- now clearly, all of that effort -- and there was a lot of
effort -- clearly fell short in some way because this attack was able to
be perpetrated, and we did suffer -- as -- as well as our Afghan
friends, suffered casualties.
We're going to do the forensics on this, Barb, and clearly try to
figure out what went wrong, cause clearly something went wrong, but it
would be irresponsible if we didn't act immediately to just -- to -- to
double down and make sure that we were -- that -- we were being as
anticipatory as possible because we still believe there are credible
threats -- in fact, I'd say specific credible threats -- and we want to
make sure we're prepared for those.
And I -- I don't think -- and I -- I'm sure you can understand that
-- that just -- just by virtue of the fact that -- that we may be taking
other steps doesn't mean that -- that they -- that they would've
necessarily been the proper steps for what we saw yesterday.
We have additional information and so what I would tell you is we're
-- what you're saying us act on, to the degree we can talk about it, is
based on information that we have, and I think I'd -- I think I'd leave
it at that.
Q: (inaudible) say you have additional information, can you tell us
do you mean you have developed additional information since the attack?
Do you still believe something is potentially imminent?
MR. KIRBY: I thought General McKenzie covered it very well with you
yesterday. We -- we certainly are prepared and would expect future
attempts, absolutely, but I won't get into the specifics of what those
are and why we're doing what we're doing.
Q: Do you have additional intelligence since the attack?
MR. KIRBY: We -- we -- again, without talking to intelligence, we're
monitoring these threats very, very specifically, virtually in real
time, and I think you can understand I wouldn't get into more detail
than that.
Tara)?
Q: Two questions for General Taylor. In the wake of the attacks, have
the commander -- U.S. commanders on the ground had improved
communications with Taliban commanders, not only in improving security
but potentially in getting SIV applicants or Afghans through the gates?
And second -- secondly, in the wake of the attack, since ISIS is also
a problem for the Taliban, is there potential there to coordinate to
actually target ISIS?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: So when we -- when we say "improved communication,"
I just want to -- I would answer that with we are continuing, you know,
communication. So improve -- I would say every day that is improving
because we have more repetitions, we're -- we're able to continue to
have open lines of communication.
So the specificity of what is being passed back and forth tactically
to allow for a better security environment I would say is improving
because those repetitions are happening and the understanding of the
Taliban, of what needs to take place, is being reinforced. And so I
think yes.
And then your second question of passing on specifics, like what are
we looking for here, what is the threat that we need you to look for,
yes, that is absolutely being passed from the commanders on the ground
to those Taliban commanders to ensure, as Mr. Kirby said, you know,
things like yesterday, we understand what to look for, we understand
what the threat is to try to prevent it.
Q: Specifically to target ISIS, though?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: To any -- those threats -- yeah, those ISIS threats that could come in.
Q: OK. And then secondly, there was a -- a secondary explosion later
yesterday, where U.S. forces were doing controlled detonations of
equipment. Could you talk about the type of equipment that is being
destroyed in the retrograde so you don't have to fly it out or it
doesn't fall into the wrong hands either?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah. So the -- the actual specifics of what type
of equipment was destroyed, I -- I don't have that, but you -- what we
have said is that, you know, the commander has the authority there to
destroy equipment that -- that they feel is responsible.
So as we talked about controlled detonations -- I think that was your
specific question -- that's what we call that, a controlled detonation,
that could take place if the commander decided to destroy some type of
equipment.
MR. KIRBY: I'd only add that, as I mentioned earlier, lives are going
to be the priority, Tara). So there will be -- you can expect that
there will be other equipment and -- and material things that will not
be brought back with us.
We're going to do this in a judicious way. Some stuff will obviously
come back with us but for the aircraft that are departing, as we get
closer to the end of the month, we want to prioritize passenger seats as
much as possible.
So you're going to continue to see things disposed of in a
responsible way as -- as we get closer to the end of the mission and I
think that -- that people would expect us to do that.
Yeah, Wafaa?
Q: John, what's the department's assessment -- that -- of the
capability of ISIS-K? And is there any concern that they can use
Afghanistan to launch attacks against the United States post-August
31st?
MR. KIRBY: Well, obviously they're a serious terrorist threat and
that was obvious -- brought home to us in pretty stark ways yesterday.
We -- we take the threat very, very seriously.
I -- I don't want to -- I'm not going to speculate about future
threats. What I will tell you -- and the President has made this clear,
the Secretary has made it clear to the leadership at the Pentagon --
that we're going -- we're not going to allow attacks on the homeland to
emanate from Afghanistan again like they did 20 years ago. And we do
have over-the-horizon counter-terrorism capability available to us to
make sure that that doesn't happen, and I think I'd leave it at that.
Q: Do you believe -- do you believe that the Taliban can stand to ISIS-K, can defeat them?
MR. KIRBY: I -- I think that the threat by -- from ISIS is real and
nobody wants to see that threat grow. I -- I cannot speak -- would not
begin to speak for Taliban capabilities or Taliban intent. Obviously
they -- there's -- there's significant animosity between these two
groups and they don't share interests. I'll -- but I -- I'm not -- it
would be foolish for me to try to predict the -- the degree to which the
-- what operations the Taliban may conduct against ISIS-K.
All I can tell you is the direction that this department has is to --
to not allow attacks on the homeland to emanate from Afghanistan again,
and -- and we are committed to that, as well as counter-terrorism
operations elsewhere around the world because the threat has
metastasized outside Afghanistan to other places where we also have to
maintain a focus and a degree of over-the-horizon counter-terrorism
capability.
Let me go back over here. In the back there?
Q: Thanks, John. Two questions. First, can you speak to any rescue ops that have happened since the attack?
MR. KIRBY: I -- I don't think there's been any -- you mean by rotary -- no -- nothing additional.
Q: And then the second question, which is probably more for the
General -- over the last five days, we've seen anywhere from 89 to 94
flights leave Kabul but we've seen somewhere between 12, 5 and 21, 6.
Can you explain why the number of evacuations fluctuates so much but the
number of flights has remained relatively steady?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah, so I -- I think what you have seen is the --
I'll just break those in two -- two bins. First, as you look at the U.S.
flights -- have stayed pretty steady, right, in the -- those numbers.
You know, as other countries are coming in, they are evacuating certain
numbers, you know, of where they are in the -- their capability or
requirement. So I think that is where you've seen some of the -- the
differences in the outward flow.
And -- and I think, I mean, you'd really have to go back to my number
today, 110,000 total. So, you know, as -- as we started, you know, just
under -- almost -- you know, just a few weeks ago, at zero all the way
up to 110,000, we would see some of those numbers start to -- to come
down.
MR. KIRBY: Let me go back to the phones. Sam LaGrone?
Q: Hey, John. As -- as part of the exit, is it the U.S. intention to
leave a -- a functioning airport with, like, radars that work, computers
that work? I mean, what's -- what's the obligation for what you all
leave behind? Thanks.
MR. KIRBY: The airport is functioning, Sam, and we're going to need
it to continue to function right up until the very end. So I think the
general assumption is as we -- as we depart, I mean, we're going to need
to depart from a -- a functional, completely operational airport.
That's our assumption going forward, that it'll -- -- that'll be
operational right up until -- until we're gone.
And as you probably heard Secretary Blinken say the other day, the --
that we're working with the international community. There are several
nations that want to contribute to the effort to keep it operational and
that are willing to work with the Taliban to that end. Certainly I'd
let them speak to that effort.
Gordon?
Q: Taliban (inaudible) operations against ISIS aside, any future
things or whatever, do you have any assessment of what ISIS fighters at
the prisons -- that they may have taken action against or killed, other
than some of the ones that we know about?
MR. KIRBY: I do not.
Q: Is that something that's knowable, like, that you guys have sought to find out and can't find out ...
MR. KIRBY: I don't know if that's knowable, Gordon. I mean, I'm happy
to take that question but I don't want to raise expectations here on
our level of the granularity of intelligence we may have gotten from
these -- these prison releases. I -- I don't want to over-promise here.
I'm happy to ask that question but I can't promise you a good answer.
Nayera?
Q: Thank you, John. The 50,000 SIV capacity that you referenced
earlier, can we expect those folks to be processed at the same four --
in the same four states that previously were reported, or will it be the
capacity beyond -- I think it's New Jersey, Virginia, Texas and
Wisconsin?
MR. KIRBY: No, I think I added some extra facilities here to -- today
that I -- that I -- one -- one's in New Mexico, Holloman Air Force
Base, and then two in Virginia, Quantico and Fort Pickett, and the
Secretary's been clear that if we need more because the demand's there,
that we'll work with the states and we'll work with the services to
identify potential future U.S. military installations, but those are the
ones that we are operating from now.
Q: And as a quick follow up -- currently, it's a 14 step process to
get the SIV application validated. Given the security challenges
yesterday, is -- is there going to be a change in where those are
processed? Are those entirely folks being processed overseas and then
brought to U.S. bases for, you know, final relocation?
MR. KIRBY: I -- I honestly can't answer that question, Nayera. That's
really what -- for the State Department. They run the SIV process. It's
not a Department of Defense equity.
Janne?
Q: Thank you, John. May I ask the General please -- thank you. Sorry, next time I will bring more.
(LAUGHTER)
President Biden said that -- also the -- I mean, President Biden
said, also the -- General McKenzie said yesterday that he had consulted
with international partners. Has he discussed about military options
with the international partners or our allies, including South Korea?
What are the primary -- U.S. primary military options?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah, so I -- I can't speak for General McKenzie
and the -- you know, the discussions, other than what he said yesterday,
is, you know, continuing to coordinate with all of our, you know,
allies and partners that are helping us with this right now, is
extremely important.
You know, to the ability to continue to synchronize all of the
airlift that continues to come in and, you know, ensuring that as timing
goes forward, all of that is well planned together is extremely
important.
I -- I think I'd have to turn it over to -- back to General McKenzie for any of those other specifics -- questions, so.
Q: And -- and another one -- what are the U.S' special wishes for our
allies and international partners? Do you have any wishes for -- from
them?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Say -- I'm sorry, I -- I ...
Q: ... what -- what wishes do you ...
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: You know, from a -- from the operational side, I
think our wish -- are -- is -- just like I said earlier, is continue
that -- the support and the work together, as we continue this mission
forward, is extremely important. Thank you.
Q: Can I -- can I follow up, sir, about something that Gordon asked
about, which is I have been hearing some reports that there have been
some attacks by ISIS-K against Taliban checkpoints in the city. Are you
seeing any evidence of attacks that ISIS-K is attacking those Taliban
checkpoints?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: I have not seen those reports.
Q: And can you give us any more clarification on the sharing of
American citizens' information, as well as SIV information with the
Taliban? There were reports yesterday that the U.S. officials were
sharing that information.
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah, I don't think there is sharing information,
as you would say in that question, of, like, we were giving information.
What information is very important right now is at the ground level to
ensure that as people approach checkpoints, that those Taliban
checkpoint leaders have and understand who's coming, what documentation
they're supposed to have, and go cause that's really important for us,
to ensure the time that people are not in areas and just, you know,
staying there for long periods of time. You know, the commanders on the
ground are continuing to coordinate how do we continue to increase that
throughput through checkpoints, through gates to get on HKIA as fast as
we can, that's very safe, you know, to get them there. Thanks.
MR. KIRBY: Meghan?
Q: How many troops -- U.S. troops are still on the ground at HKAIA?
And how has the security posture at the gates changed? Are there more or
fewer troops going in and out of the gates? Is there more overwatch of
the crowd for -- for suspicious activity?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: So kind of back -- what Mr. Kirby said earlier as
we talked about troop numbers and capability. Capability does -- has not
changed for us to secure all the gates, to be able to process evacuees
and our ability to rapidly turn aircraft as they arrive and get those
out. And as we talk about force protection at the gate, I'm not going to
get into the specific TTPs that those, you know, junior leaders are
taking down there, other than we continue to learn every day from the
day before, and we work within all -- all the capabilities we have to
ensure, one, that we can continue people to come in, but also stay safe.
Q: When you say "continue to learn", does that mean that you have switched things up in order to make it more safe?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: I would say patterns are things that we -- to -- we
try not to, you know, get into. So you know, I would just tell you, as
the most simple operational piece there, we're always doing things that
we can to keep us safe and -- and not create patterns.
MR. KIRBY: I'd only add to that, Meghan, as I mentioned to Barb, you
know, but we still have active threat streams and we're taking steps
that we believe are appropriate to those -- to the streams, and I think
I'd leave it at that.
And I want to foot-stomp the boots on the ground number. As the
general mentioned in his opening statement today, more than 5,000 today.
We are not going to get in, going forward, to a daily count of what's
on the ground, just going forward, as we get closer now to the end of
the month and the end of the mission. Don't -- don't expect daily
updates on what -- exactly how many troops are there at any given
moment.
Mike?
Q: Yeah, so now, when you said that there was going to be an
investigation of -- into what happened yesterday, were you talking about
a full, like a criminal inquiry with forensics people on the ground and
interviewing possible witnesses? Who would be doing that, and how do
you do that in the middle of a war zone?
MR. KIRBY: I don't -- I wouldn't characterize it as a criminal
investigation, but it'll be as comprehensive as General McKenzie needs
it to be to -- to try to do the forensics here and figure out what
happened and what we can learn from it going forward. It'll be a -- a
very complete, thorough investigation. It'll -- and I will leave it to
General McKenzie to describe for you sort of the architecture of what
that's going to be. But it's -- it's not like we haven't, sadly, had to
do this before.
Q: Right.
MR. KIRBY: And we know how to conduct these investigations.
Yes, sir, you...
Q: Thank you very much, Mr. Kirby. (inaudible) communication network
and (inaudible). These U.S. service members doing incredible job with
sacrificing their life. With consideration of that, my question is some
(inaudible) strategic. Do you think the removal from Afghanistan, it
will reduce your control within the Indo-Pacific, the U.S. control?
MR. KIRBY: It's not about U.S. control in the Indo-Pacific; it's
about protecting our country from threats and challenges that emanate
from that part of the world, and it's about revitalizing our network of
alliances and partnerships to help our -- our partners in the
international community do the same. That's why the Secretary's first
trip was to the region. He just came back from the region. The Vice
President just returned literally this morning from the region. We are
laser-focused on the Indo-Pacific and the -- the security challenges, as
well as the opportunities that are there. It's not about U.S. control;
it's about U.S. partnership.
Sylvie, you've been very patient.
Q: I -- I know you -- you don't want to speak about the details of
the circumstances of the attack. But can you tell us if it was at the
gate itself, or in the middle of the crowd, or at a checkpoint? Was the
guy walking or he was in a bus? Can you give us a little – some little
details?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: First, I'll start off with, details are --
continuing to be collected. It goes back to the question about
continuing to learn as much as we can. Because as you know, when an
attack initially starts, you know, you have to fight the fight, then --
and we're at right now, ensuring, you know, the respect and dignity of
our -- our wounded and those that were killed in action, so...
But as we look at the details, at approximately -- as we saw
yesterday, at about 17:40 Kabul time, there was what we reported as a --
a suicide-borne vest there that was exploded right at and around the
gate. We don't know the exact location, you know. But it was right
outside the vicinity of that gate, and then followed by direct fire from
an any -- enemy position that is not exactly known. That was outside in
what we call just north of that gate area also.
Q: How many assailants were killed? Was it just a suicide bomber plus the shooter, or how many people (inaudible)?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: It just goes back to what I said. Right now, what
we know, there was shooters, you know, shoot -- don't know the exact
number, but one with the suicide vest.
MR. KIRBY: Luis, go ahead. Wait, wait, wait, Gordon. We've already got you. Luis, go ahead.
Q: Were there any troops killed by that gunfire?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Like I said, we're asking, you know, very detailed
questions about the fight. That -- that will continue to be collected. I
can't answer, you know, numbers of -- that's just, I would say, you
know, that could come out. But just knowing the facts, the incredible,
you know, devastation that happened there, I think we should just leave
it there.
(CROSSTALK)
MR. KIRBY: Hang on just a second. Go ahead.
Q: I'm sorry. So my question, kind of following on Lita's earlier.
Yesterday, the president said that he will hunt down and basically get
revenge on the ISIS attackers yesterday. Can you just explain to the
American public who might be wondering, "Hey, we had 25 troops on the
ground.” What will that look like if we go into a situation where we're
going to go and hunt down these ISIS...?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah. I think, you know, as we look at currently --
I've already -- I think I've answered that question of, we have, you
know, options there right now that we can, you know, ensure the
commander has the ability to take action as, you know, those
opportunities present themself. But I'm not going to go into, you know,
and try to think about the, you know -- how -- a decision General
McKenzie would make in the -- in future operations.
MR. KIRBY: Luis?
Q: Oh, just a quick follow-up on -- on the gunman. Was there more than one gunman? And was that gunman killed or whatever...?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Like I said, you know, those -- information is
still coming in. I would say what we do know after the fact, there was
a, you know, a suicide-borne IED right there and gunfire. That's --
that's for sure that we know.
Q: My other question is going to be this: You know, 31 American
casualties overall. That's a significant number at one location. I mean,
what -- how can we explain why they were -- were they concentrated in
one area? Was there a shift change underway? I mean, how -- how is it --
or were they spread apart in one line, and that's just how the blast
was?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: Yeah. You know, the -- use a line. This answer's
not going to be, you know, rewarding to you, that -- but it goes back
to, you know, the commander will figure all those out at -- at the due
time, right? You know, and those are the questions that I think are very
appropriate, you know, and people, you know, will want to know this.
But right now, what I can tell you is the commander's continuing to
execute the mission and make sure that, you know, other forces in there
can continue there and ensure that those information, as I think a
couple of the questions we answered earlier, will -- will come at the
proper time.
MR. KIRBY: Terace?
Q: Yes, good morning, John. A question for General Taylor. I know
it's been said numerous times that the focus of the mission is to get
evacuees and Americans out as quickly as possible. But for those that
were injured during the attack yesterday and taken to the local
hospital, has there been any talks about setting up security for those
individuals? I'm hearing reports on the ground that there are concerns
that ISIS may attack that hospital. So are there any talks to possibly
help keep those Afghans -- civilians, excuse me, safe from a potential
attack? And then once they are well enough to travel, how will they get
to the U.S. as well?
MAJ. GEN. TAYLOR: You're talking about Afghans that were injured in
the attack. First of all what I can report is that there were some
Afghans there that were a part of that were treated by U.S. and other
forces immediately there. I'm not fully aware of the reports of -- on
the hospitals in Kabul because I do know that there were Afghans taken
to multiple locations in Kabul.
MR. KIRBY: There is time for just a couple more. Yes, ma'am.
Q: Mr. Kirby, you said that lives are the priority. So my question is
pretty straight forward. Should the U.S. or should Americans expect
more U.S. casualties in the next few days?
MR. KIRBY: We obviously don't want to see any more casualties that
why we are monitoring the threat streams very closely and taking what we
believe are the best possible steps to prevent another tragedy like
this from happening. I mean that's obvious -- the Secretary was -- made
that very clear to leadership last night and this morning. That force
protection will remain a paramount -- obviously a paramount concerns as
it always does.
Q: And just to add to that, apparently, there's a bottleneck at
Dulles Airport with these -- the U.S. airlines coming in with refugees
at Dulles Airport. Are you aware of this? Or are refugees being stuck on
the tarmac for hours and hours?
MR. KIRBY: Yes, we are aware of those reports and they have proven
accurate in the last couple of days. It's really more an issue for
Customs and Border Patrol and the process. So I don't want to speak to
them or their process. But as we understand it this morning they have
worked through the difficulties and we believe that wait time now upon
landing is going to get much, much shorter.
But I would refer you to my colleagues at Customs and Border Patrol to speak to that.
OK, thanks very much. One more, go ahead.
Q: How many Afghan SIV have been flown out so far? Or are there Afghans without green cards or permanent status?
MR. KIRBY: Check me on this but we looked at the number just before
coming out. It's just -- we have just under 7,000 now that are in the
states and being processed. And that number will change every day
obviously as it should.
OK, thanks everybody. We'll see you again at -- I'm sorry, I said 3
o'clock, it's 3:30 this afternoon. General VanHerck will be joining me. I
do apologize for the delay this morning. We were getting updates
literally as we were getting ready to come out to see you. We'll do the
best we can to be more punctual. But, thanks, all, see you later.
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