STAFF: All right. Good afternoon, guys. Thank you for being
here, and joining us today are Major General Derek Rydholm, deputy chief of Air
Force Reserve, and Brigadier General Diana Holland, commanding of U.S. Army
Corps of Engineers, South Atlantic Division. They're going to talk to you today
about hurricane relief efforts and what their -- what their services have done
in support of it.
General Rydholm?
MAJ. GEN. DEREK P. RYDHOLM: Thanks, Mark.
Hey, first off, I appreciate having the opportunity to stand
here and hopefully be able to answer the questions that you would have about
what we're doing in support of -- the hurricanes and any of the other kind of
natural disasters we've had.
And I'm standing in on behalf of my boss, Lieutenant General
Maryanne Miller, that couldn't make it here today. But we're here to represent
the more than 69,000 Reserve citizen airmen that are currently serving in the
United States Air Force Reserve.
Over the last couple of weeks, we've seen numerous natural
disasters. And I would tell you that I have firsthand knowledge, and that I
have a house in Key Largo, Florida, and for Hurricane Irma, I was actually in
Miami when it -- when it struck. I had evacuated out of the Keys.
But it's humbling to see the amount of luck that I had, and
the minimal damage that I had. But I -- our hearts go out to everybody that's
been impacted this -- by the multitude of different events that we've had, and,
you know, large swathes of -- in the States -- the partners in Mexico, the
Caribbean, the islands -- just a lot of stuff, and additionally, even reaching
out to the West Coast, to the California wildfires and other things.
We've had -- we have three special units in the reserve
command that do the hurricane hunting mission, the aerial spray mission, which
has been active during these events, and the wildfire missions, as well.
So we're quite proud of what they've done in support of the
efforts, and we anticipate here, you know, with all the four Atlantic
hurricanes we've seen, and just the instability we've seen lately, that we're
here, prepared to do as much as we can and continue to work that and to support
everyone that's been affected by this.
So, well before Harvey made landfall, until the season is
over and wildfire season's over, we'll be there, and we'll be through
volunteerism and other forces here to support -- as a supporting agency of the
Department of Defense, to all the rest of our partner agencies in this -- in
this time of -- difficult time.
So, over to General Holland.
BRIG. GEN. DIANA HOLLAND: Thank you, sir. Well, good afternoon,
and I, too, thank you for being here today. As was already mentioned, I'm Diana
Holland, and I represent the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Over the past few weeks, the Corps of Engineers has been
heavily engaged in supporting our states and territories following three
hurricanes: Harvey, Irma and Maria.
And so, like the General here, I'd like to express our
thoughts and prayers for those affected by these storms. We recognize that
there are people who've lost a home, their belongings, potentially their
livelihood. And it's for that reason that people of our organization, the
organization I represent, feel so passionate about doing everything possible to
help.
So just a little bit about who we are: I command one of nine
divisions of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the South Atlantic Division. The
area of responsibility of our division includes the southeastern United States,
as well as the Caribbean islands.
So, as you can imagine, the entire impact of Irma and Maria
was felt in our region. And so our division is the lead for the Corps of
Engineers in the hurricane response following Irma and Maria.
The areas in our region affected include Georgia, Florida,
the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, and, just to briefly describe the
complexity of this, two storms, which each brought unique impacts requiring
specific resources and expertise, two territories, four governors, two FEMA
regions and so on. It has been truly remarkable to watch the broad U.S.
government response, and I'm happy to report that we're working very closely
together in support of those governors' priorities.
So, as I mentioned each state and territory has its own
requirements. There are -- but there are some things that remain consistent. We
share the desire to reunite families, get survivors out of shelters and hotels
and get back to their homes and restore some normalcy.
So, our role in this is, as we like to say, FEMA's engineers.
They give us our missions, and our missions are what you might expect engineers
to do. Debris removal and when I talk about debris removal I mean high volume,
in the hundreds of thousands of cubic yards. Infrastructure assessments,
temporary emergency power restoration, temporary roofing.
Some of you may be familiar with Blue Roof. And I can talk
more about that later, but that's one of the primary things we do when
residences are damaged in temporary housing. And then, in collaboration with the
United States Coast Guard and NOAA, we work really hard with the Port
Authority's to help them open the ports.
So, our approach to this support to FEMA is right people,
right place early. And, here's what I mean by that. Early on before Irma we
prepositioned our soldiers and civilians, selected because they have certain
specific skillsets, on the island so that as soon as Hurricane Irma passed they
could quickly assess the damage and begin to plan for the required support.
We anticipated that ports of entry would be closed, and they
were. Had we not been on those islands in advance along with the other agencies
we would not have been timely. We would have been subject to the same delays
that others faced, because the airports and the ports were closed.
Same approach for Florida. Although in the case of Florida
we don't face the same logistics challenges as we do on the island, because the
ability to transport people and supplies by ground is a key advantage. Then
similarly as Maria approached we had the right people in place so that after
the storm they could quickly restart our efforts. Right people, right place,
early.
Last week I had the privileged to visit Florida, Puerto Rico
and the Virgin Islands, and unfortunately as you've seen in all of the images a
lot of damage across the board, and that was before Maria struck the
territories. Our teams which sheltered there during the hurricanes were able to
begin their assessments of the damage yesterday morning following the storm.
And, the assessments continue. The airports are damaged and closed, although
I've just learned that the airport in Puerto Rico has opened to military
traffic. The ports are closed. Of course a lot of power outages, roads blocked
by debris, water damage, the things you would expect following a major
hurricane.
These assessments will continue over the next several days,
but all of us that support FEMA's response are acting. And so, here's what some
of those actions are. We're looking at our ports on Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands,
and are working with NOAA and the Coast Guard to survey the channel so that we
can confirm that they are safe to open. We will assist FEMA in the islands and
emergency repairs at the airports in San Juan and Virgin Islands.
Power -- so with power other things are manageable. So, it's
really one of our first priorities. We're helping to assess power on both
Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, particularly in the hospitals, health
clinics and waste water treatment plants.
We've restarted the Blue Roof program in the Virgin Islands.
So, Blue Roof refers to FEMA's 10-millimeter blue sheeting that can be
installed over a damaged roof, providing protection from additional rain and
allowing people to leave shelters and return home.
In fact we think tomorrow that the first Blue Roof in the
Virgin Islands will happen, and that will be a huge milestone and a real moral
boost for the people of the Virgin Islands.
And as we look to the weeks and months ahead, we will
continuously right-size the response teams to ensure we have the right
capabilities in place, that we're balanced across all of these regions, with
the right leaders at the right time as the recovery continues.
So, in closing, you know, we're just halfway -- just over
halfway through the hurricane season. And that -- that's important for us to
remember: 1 November is kind of the mark on the wall where we see the end of
that season. So though we focus our attention on the response to Irma and
Maria, we also must remain prepared and flexible in the event we have another
storm.
I'd like to talk briefly about our people. So our essential
soldiers and civilians of the Corps of Engineers, who were on Puerto Rico and
the Virgin Islands following Irma, chose to remain in place despite warnings
that Maria could be a major hurricane, and despite being offered the
opportunity to evacuate. They wanted to be in position to help as soon as
possible. And they wanted to show the people of those two territories that
we're in this together.
It has really been an inspiration to be a part of this
effort. So one point of nuance, many of the hundreds of the Corps of Engineers
who are part of this response aren't actually assigned to the division I
command. They come from across the United States, including Hawaii; Alaska;
Seattle; Tulsa; Sacramento; Buffalo, New York; and many other places.
Without exception, when I've asked our team, how do they
feel about the mission, serving in Georgia, Florida, Puerto Rico, or the Virgin
Islands, they say, "I can't imagine being anywhere else. I want to help. I
want to make this right for people who have lost so much."
So, in closing, there's a long road ahead. But as a
representative of the Army Corps of Engineers, I can say we're committed to
this, no matter how long it's required.
Thank you for your attention and your patience, and I guess
we're happy to answer your questions.
GEN. RYDHOLM: Absolutely.
STAFF: (off mic)
Q: Sure.
You sort of mentioned this in your remarks. But, other than
the electrical grid, could you talk about how widespread the sort of
devastation is in regards to schools and hospitals? And how long do you think
it's going to take you to complete your assessment on the damage?
GEN. HOLLAND: I think it is going to -- it's going to be
many days before we have a good picture on all of -- on the whole scope of
this. The first -- the first thing we start with is the essential services, so,
like I said, the hospitals, the clinics, some of the government buildings,
because they need that in order to continue to manage the response.
So I can't say exactly how long it's going to take, but it's
going to be weeks before we know the full scope. And that doesn't mean that we
don't start for a few weeks. We -- the -- but the major assessment and the
overall, complete restoration on Puerto Rico will take some time.
Q: What about the schools and hospitals? Sort of where --
where do -- where does the other infrastructure, other than the electrical
grid, sort of stand right now?
GEN. HOLLAND: So I don't know, right now, beyond power. I
mean, we do know that the power outage is extensive, between 95 and 100
percent, right now. So it will be -- it will -- you know, and without power,
then you potentially have issues with water. But all of that is still being
assessed right now.
STAFF: Lucas (Fox News).
Q: You mentioned, ma'am , the -- an airport in Puerto Rico
is now open to military traffic. Which airport was that?
GEN. HOLLAND: San Juan, the major airport.
Q: Can either of you outline the military assistance to the
Virgin Islands right now?
GEN. RYDHOLM: I can speak to some degree to that. We have
had air mobility aircraft that have gone down through the Air National Guard.
We've taken special tactics teams, and members of those teams are the types of
people that would open airports. That's some of the stuff that they can do.
We've also provided humanitarian aid through mobility
aircraft, with MREs and water and other things. And that's ongoing through Air
Mobility Command and U.S. Transportation Command.
Q: And finally, how does their response to these hurricanes
differ from the response to Hurricane Katrina?
GEN. HOLLAND: Yeah, I really don't have the background to
make that comparison. I know we do have lessons learned -- the Corps of
Engineers does have lessons learned. I don't know that off the top of my head
though.
Q: Just with the string of recent storms, was there any
concern that the military is being stretched too thin by these disasters, and
what, if anything, are you doing to prevent that?
GEN. HOLLAND: So, I can only speak for the corps of
engineers, I can't speak for the whole military. But I know that we do have a
lot going on, but we're always mindful that we have to balance the different
tasks and make sure that we are ready to respond to the next one. So I think
the corps of engineers is postured to do so, but I can't speak for all of DOD.
GEN. RYDHOLM: So I'll speak for a lot of the aspects of DOD.
If you look, this is a -- really, a joint engagement. You've got assets from
the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Army, the Air Force, all working together here,
and the National Guard to a large degree. Our people, specifically talking to
our reserve airmen -- our people love to do this, because the human emotion side
of this, when you're able to deliver water to people that have been without
power in some of the hottest times of the year, and humid times of the year,
with insects and other things, and having experienced that myself in 1992, with
Hurricane Andrew. To see a Red Cross food truck come up and deliver a hot meal
after being out trying to go through debris, it is wonderful. So the people
that we've talked to, and the people that we've sent down there are very happy
to do the mission. This is a type of mission -- those are the types of things
that our air mobility, our large aircraft are very good at.
We have responded in all natural disasters through the
islands, in Haiti and other places in the past. I think we're fine because our
air crew members, and our crew members of our mobility aircraft get great
training on these missions, and these are the types of things that we're good
at. And we've got people that are lining up to continue to support, and I think
we're doing just fine there.
Q: You said you had to be mindful to make sure that you're
balancing, could you give some examples?
GEN. HOLLAND: Well, for example, as Florida -- as we
complete the temporary power mission in Florida, you know, we're always
measuring how many people do you need in Florida, because we want to be --
whether they go somewhere else, or they redeploy and be ready for a future
storm, we're just always mindful of the troop to task and making sure that we
have the right number that's actually required. I don't know if that answers
your question.
Q: Just on the temporary power in Puerto Rico, you talked
about that effort, and, obviously, the scale – 95 to 100 percent of the island
being without power, is temporary power, primarily, is it generators? And is
there a capacity issue? I mean, with such a large island, trying to just
temporary power, in terms of fuel, and the number of generators, are you
requisitioning them from elsewhere? I mean, that scale, how are you tackling
that?
GEN. HOLLAND: FEMA flies in generators -- supplies us with
the generators, well, they don't necessarily fly them in. They have distribution
centers already prepositioned there. They will bring in more as more are
required.
Q: Do you have an estimation on how many will be required?
GEN. HOLLAND: I do not know how many generators.
Q: One of the things we're hearing from Puerto Rico is
residents there don't have comms, and so they're not able to communicate
whether they're safe or not, and there's been a lot of frustration from people
here trying to find out about their loved ones. Can you give us any assessment
in terms of what, if anything, is being done to restore communications, and
when Puerto Ricans can expect to have the ability to communicate with their --
to their loved ones?
GEN. RYDHOLM: I can't give you a timeframe, but what I can
tell you is that we are able to fly mobile comms support in, and that is
ongoing. And we've heard the same things that you're saying, and the
frustrations associated with that.
But that's the -- the types of efforts that we have. I can't
talk to you about scope and how soon, but I can tell you that we're doing that.
Q: Is that mobile comm support for the military? Or is it
for citizens as well?
GEN. RYDHOLM: I think it's more for the citizens. But
realize that we also, along with that, are able to bring other first
responders, if you will. So we're able to fly, on our mobility aircraft,
firefighters, search and rescue and other civil support, as well.
Q: But can you give me a sense -- is it days? Is it weeks
before -- can you kind of help the public to get a sense of when they might be
able to reach their loved ones?
GEN. RYDHOLM: I wish that I could...
GEN. HOLLAND: Yeah.
GEN. RYDHOLM: ... but, as General Holland said, until -- you
know, think about it. Until, probably, today, there was no real understanding
at all of the level -- the gravity of the situation. So until someone can take
a look at that, I mean, just having done Irma in Miami and looking at the
volume of power that was out in the state of Florida for a relatively light
event, at least in the Miami area, I think it's going to take a while.
But until they have a chance to take a look at that, I
wouldn't want to speculate with a timeframe.
Yes, sir.
Q: I'd like to go back to the question about being stretched
too thin. You said you were doing fine, but as you assess the devastation,
which is likely to be widespread devastation, do you anticipate that there's
going to be a need for additional military resources? Or are you expecting to
make, you know, requests for more? Can you talk about what that might be?
GEN. RYDHOLM: Well, as a-- I don't know that I can answer to
that purely. But as the military, through U.S. NORTHCOM and others, is -- the
Department of Defense is in support of other agencies, like USAID and others.
And until we get that request for support, it's difficult for us to say what
assets we have available.
Do I personally believe that the -- that this is going to be
a long road to recovery, in many cases? I absolutely do, because I've watched
this over the years, for various other events. But I would tell you very firmly
that the entirety of the Department of Defense takes this very seriously, and
we -- these are our homes and our neighbors and our friends, as well.
And we have evacuated some of our own personnel, in
preparation for these storms, and now, have gone back in support of the storms
with those same assets and those same personnel. So we will be there for the
long run.
STAFF: Courtney?
Q: Two quick ones, General. What is a mobile comms support?
Are those like mobile cell phone towers -- small -- like, sectors, or
something, or what is that?
GEN. RYDHOLM: Well, I'm not a comms person, so it would be
unfair for me, probably, to go into the nitty-gritty of that. But suffices to
say, if you look at what the Department of Defense has done through history, in
light of some of our wars, we have opened austere airfields, and we have
specific units that have the talents and capabilities to open runways, open
airfields and provide the infrastructure support there.
So I would hesitate to go any deeper into that, because it's
not my background. But we're pretty good at this stuff, so I think we'll be
there doing the best we can.
Q: OK. And then just one more -- I know it's early, but have
you seen any signs, and I guess particularly in Puerto Rico, of any security
problems yet that -- of any, you know, issues on the ground with looting, or
anything like that?
GEN. HOLLAND: I'm not aware of any. I have not heard that.
GEN. RYDHOLM: I'm unaware, as well.
STAFF: Corey.
Q: Ma'am, going back to Hurricane Harvey, are there still
Corps of Engineers assets responding in that -- to that storm?
GEN. HOLLAND: Yes.
Q: Can you tell us what they are doing at this point?
GEN. HOLLAND: You know, I -- I -- I'm not -- I probably
couldn't. Another division oversees that particular storm. I do know that they
are steadily redeploying personnel out of Texas, either to come to Florida, or
Virgin Islands, or Puerto Rico, because the requirements ...
You know, once the state and other agencies take on some of
these tasks, it's not as -- the Corps of Engineers' expertise isn't necessarily
required quite as much as they are in the early stages, so...
Q: Can you give an idea of the numbers you guys have in
Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, and in Florida?
GEN. HOLLAND: Yeah, so total right now across the -- all of
the islands, the Corps of Engineers employees are 127, OK? So, you know, I -- I
think a lot of how we leverage the response is through contracts, whether local
contracts, or contracts coming from the continental United States. So that's
why that number, you know, 127, I think to a lot of folks, that doesn't seem
like a lot. But it's the right expertise that knows how to leverage the
acquisition contracting tools to hire local businesses to do some of this
relief, if they're -- if they're able to.
Q: And then, it -- it sounds like some of these folks have
essentially responded to three hurricanes in a row. How taxing is that on them,
you know, personally? Is that -- that's -- is there any precedent for that? I
mean, is it...
GEN. HOLLAND: I know we've had years of four hurricanes in
our -- in our particular region in one season. So I don't think this is
unprecedented.
The folks that I have talked to that have gone from storm to
storm, first of all, you couldn't tell them no. They're -- they're not going to
be told no. We -- we make sure, though, that they do have an opportunity to go
home, to refit, to rest, and -- before they get on the airplane to go to the
next storm. But this is, you know, they're very driven by the purposes of -- of
helping, so it's not a bad problem to have, I guess.
GEN. RYDHOLM: Our 403rd Wing, hurricane-hunting weather
birds, this is what they do. So although it has -- it has been a significantly
higher storm season, it is not uncommon for them to fly out of one hurricane,
and into the other. They at times do it from forward- staged locations. They will
continue throughout the hurricane season, and they're going to provide
tremendous information to help the -- the national assets to understand the
potential for -- for any future storms.
Q: Can you just walk us through what'll happen next in
Puerto Rico, now the airport's open for military aircraft? What's -- what does
that look like in the next hours, days...?
GEN. HOLLAND: You know, I'm not -- I'm not sure exactly of
what FEMA will direct specifically. But I do know for us, our next move is to
get another headquarters from the Army Corps of Engineers. A -- a colonel who
works in our organization will lead additional leaders and staffing to go into
Puerto Rico and organize the Corps of Engineers response. So that's our next
step. We think that's going to happen Monday -- Sunday or Monday time frame.
And then -- and then by then, we'll have the missions, more assessment, and
we'll have additional understanding of what the missions are going to be.
And then they'll start implementing the different contracts
to start, whether it's Blue Roof, or removing debris. It's -- it's -- we're a
little bit dependent. Well, we're very dependent on the governor's priorities,
and so as he sees the magnitude of this, and he develops his priorities, that's
-- that's then how that works. He then relays that to FEMA, and if FEMA decides
the Corps is the -- the avenue to go to -- to employ our skills, then -- then
we'll receive those orders.
Q: But it won't be until Sunday or Monday for the comms
equipment, or...
GEN. RYDHOLM: ...it's all based on requests. And as a
supporting agency, we would see that. My expectation would be, because I think
they're already been doing this in the islands, that the Puerto Rico
International Guard will be heavily engaged in support of any activities
required -- to include if there were issues with -- whomever asked a question
about looting and other things, they provide security.
But I would also expect that based on those requests, we
would have mobility aircraft, which is one of the reasons that it's good to get
the military airfield open first. We will be bringing in the needed supplies
and support based on other agency requests to the department.
Q: Will it be today or tomorrow?
GEN. RYDHOLM: I can't tell you. All I would tell you is, is
through USNORTHCOM, that they are likely getting requests right now, and my
expectation would be, because we respond very rapidly, that if there has been a
request for Department of Defense support there, it is probably already
happening. And we just don't realize it.
STAFF: OK, guys. If that's it -- we're sitting at about the
30 minute -- you have one more question? Please, go ahead.
Q: Sir, you had mentioned that some of your personnel are in
these affected areas, and you said that you, personally, (inaudible). I was
just wondering if I could ask you a personal question.
GEN. RYDHOLM: Sure.
Q: How did Key Largo fare, and how did your own...
GEN. RYDHOLM: Key Largo did OK. And it was interesting
because as a person who has watched this before, I moved to Key Largo because
of Hurricane Andrew. So I understood, but the people that live in the Florida
Keys have not been struck by a storm of any magnitude for the majority of the
last two centuries. So, my -- Key Largo, from my perspective, did pretty good.
But based on the fact of where the eye hit, and how quick the winds dissipate,
you don't have to start going very far south to where you see major
devastation. Now, because I was in Miami, and we were unable to get people back
into the Florida Keys, at the last moment, we chose to go out of there based on
the turn of the eye. And where we felt that it was going to impact.
So we went, actually, into Miami. Did not go back down to
the Keys, but I've been keeping contact through Internet, Facebook, online
phone videos and pictures, so I have a pretty good idea of my own stuff, and I
have seen posted things of friends who have had significantly more damage than
I experienced, only 5 to 6 miles south of my house. So my concern would be, as
you start to look at about Islamorada, Marathon, south towards Key West, I
think we're going to see significant problems, and it's going to be a very long
road to recovery in a place that is virtually 100 percent dependent on tourism.
Q: Just can you put in context how bad the Virgin Islands
were hit compared to other surrounding areas, or maybe compare the damage to
Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands?
GEN. HOLLAND: You know, without having an assessment of
Puerto Rico yet, I really couldn't do that.
Q: Just the Virgin Islands then, can you just put into
context the damage, describe the damage in the Virgin Islands?
GEN. HOLLAND: Ninety percent power outages. One of the
challenges we have in the Virgin -- or the Virgin Islands has is that they have
a lot of above ground power lines. And so, that's going to take a long time to
fix. When I was over there, driving on the different roads and surveying the damage,
a lot of down power lines and poles across the road. A lot of debris, a lot of
homes in different stages of -- most affected in some way, some very seriously.
It's very extensive.
But I would also note, you know, they were really energized
to get after this, and to start making progress. So just within a couple --
from the two days before I got there, our commander on the ground had --
driving by gas stations, for example, and there were long lines to get fuel.
By the time I was there, just 48 hours later, there weren't
fuel lines anymore. We were able to go around the entire island with our
vehicle, which was an incredible improvement compared to 48 hours before, then
I made a second visit two days later and it was already better. There was a
couple of restaurants open. There were grocery stores open.
So they're really -- you know, they're really trying to make
the improvements while the rest of us are supporting them. So, this was --
Maria was definitely an unfortunate setback.
Q: Would you say that every home in the Virgin Islands to
some degree was damaged?
GEN. HOLLAND: I would
not say every home in the Virgin Islands was damaged, but I would say probably
most families affected in one way or the other.
STAFF: OK. All right, guys.
General Rydholm, General Holland, thank you very much for
coming. Appreciate your time today. Thank you very much.
Hey, guys, if anybody wants to do a one on one for any for
reason, get a few more questions on a more personal (inaudible) or anything
like that come on up here, talk to me and the generals staffs And they have a
little bit of time this afternoon they can sit down with you, if anyone's
interested. OK?
That's all we have for today, guys. Thanks.
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